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14.8.10

Kelty Gunnison 4 Footprint

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In the early 1950's, Dick Kelty made backpacks for his friends in the Sierra Club. Time and experience proved that hiking was more pleasurable when the hiker could carry heavy loads without shoulder pain. This was accomplished with Kelty's ideas of a hipbelt and light weight aluminum frames. A few of Kelty's popular items are backpacks, adjustable poles, rain covers for backpacks, camp pillows, fanny packs, a carport tent or shelter, Thermolite Quallo sleeping bags,and chuckwagon dog packs.
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Technical Details

- Coated nylon
- Mesh storage sack
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Customer Buzz
 "Gunnison 4 and 4.1 do not use the same footprint" 2009-07-09
By leslie k. (baltimore, MD United States)
Not sure why I see it online so much as if it is the same model, but there are separate footprints for these tents.

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 "Too Small" 2009-04-13
By S. Duckson (Maryland)
Quality fine but seems quite small, almost as if for the 2.1. It was sealed in the package and I know that it shouldn't stick past the edges, but I wonder. Either way not really worth the trouble of a return.


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25.2.10

Kelty Gunnison 4.1 Four Person Tent

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The redesigned Gunnison with its improved features is a freestanding, color-coded clip construction shelter that offers quick, two-pole setup and spacious quarters for a couple or a crowd. It includes internal storage pockets for organization and a combination of hubbed, high-quality DAC Feather lite pockets.
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Technical Details

- The pole has a smaller diameter that allows it to slide into the larger pole end
- ITW lineloc guyline adjuster, a ladderloc for cord, creates an easy way to adjust
- Internal storage pockets and mesh panels
- Welded clear windows on Fly
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Customer Buzz
 "great family tent" 2009-08-11
By K. Jensen (Fairbanks, AK United States)
This is a really nice tent. Lightweight, but sturdy, and we stayed totally dry in a downpour, with four of us in the tent for 3 days. Easily fits a family of 4, but no more than that; we were snug. Kids are 10 and 7 now, as they grow we'll probably have to sleep head-toe-head-toe.

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 "Great tent, lightweight, easy to set up" 2008-07-07
By J. Fernandes
Have only taken it out once but it was easy to set up, easy to adjust the fly, very lightweight, and easy to roll back up into its sack. I bought the footprint as well. I actually forgot to use this but there's a gear hammock included along with 2 mesh pockets on the tent walls. As for space, it's more of a 3-person tent but 4 could squeeze in if you put gear in the 2 vestibules. Get regular stakes if you end up on some hard ground - the lightweight aluminum ones will bend.

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 "So far, so good..." 2008-06-05
By Loren Smith (Provo, UT United States)
I have been pleased with this tent so far. I have a couple of children that I am introducing to the wonderful world of backpacking and was looking for a tent large enough to accommodate us comfortably.



I searched all of the major tent brands and made several trips to REI and other sporting goods stores before I made my decision. The reasons that I chose this tent are:



- It is large. 100"x82" is a healthy size. Throw on the two vestibules and you have a TON of space.



- Full rain fly. The full rain fly is especially helpful in adverse weather, as long as you have it installed correctly (not touching the sides of the tent).



- Light weight. This tent weighs in at eight pounds even (I have not confirmed this, but the specs show the 4.1 at an even eight pounds). This was one of the biggest factors for me. I needed a tent that I could carry as I ascend the 3000 feet from trailhead to our destination at 10,000 feet above sea level. Most of the competitors' four-man tents weigh over 10 pounds. If you in a resource rich environment, you can shave weight by ditching the tent stakes and using sticks that you find on the ground as tent stakes.



- Modest price. This tent was within my price range. MSR makes an exceptionally light three person tent but the weight of the price tag was too much for me to carry. I would have lost too much sleep worrying about what the wind was doing to my $450 tent.



There are some areas that I am still a little skeptical about:



- I don't like the plastic snaps that hold the poles in the corners. They feel sturdy enough, but I am still afraid that this will break under the demands of young children learning to use a tent.



-The bottom of the tent is quite thin. I didn't notice this at the store, but it was very noticeable to me once I set it up for the first time in my living room. This is one of the few sacrifices that are made to keep the tent light; we will see how it holds up to my children...



My first camp out with the tent was successful; good ventilation, lots of room, and easy set-up. All in all I am pleased with this tent. I can't wait to get out on the trail and give it a full backcountry test.

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 "Better Than Ever" 2008-05-27
By Mike (Bound Brook, NJ United States)
Let's face it - buying a tent is like buying a house; unless you build it yourself, you are never going to get exactly what you want. That having been said, the Kelty Gunnison 4.1 4-person tent is pretty close to exactly what I wanted, and a great tent.



Packed up: The G-4.1 is at the large end of what you want for backpacking. Packed up, it measures approximately 8"x28" and weighs about 8.5 pounds, so it's going to take up a lot of room either in your pack or (more likely) strapped on the outside of your pack. But if you can hack it, that's really a pretty light weight for a tent this size. On the otherhand, it's a perfect size/wieght for car camping, if not on the small end of that spectrum.



Included in the package are (1) the tent; (2) two super lightweight aluminum poles; (3) rain fly; and (10) lightweight tent stakes with tie down lines.



Set up: This is where the G-4.1 is truly spectacular. When I got the tent, I quickly glanced at the directions for set up and decided to do a test run in my living room. If you want to do this too, make sure you have a BIG living room and lots of room to manuever the poles, cause they are REALLY long and I was constantly knocking over books and pictures. Anyway, I unrolled the tent and put it on the floor. I then put the poles together -- each pole breaks down into several smaller segments that are permanently linked together so you can't lose them. As you can see from the photos of this tent, the poles criss-cross at the apex of the tent, forming a big X from which the tent is suspended. Kelty uses a "clip" system in which the poles simply click into plastic brackets, rather than you having to thread them through anything. Each end of the pole is then fit into an anchor at the bottom corners of the tent. The rain fly was also extremly easy to put on, with the anchors for the poles also doubling as the anchors for the rain fly. The bottom line, folks, is that I think this tent took me all of about three minutes to set up. I was truly amazed at how easy it was. The best way I can describe it is that the G-4.1 is totally intuitive in the set up -- you look at the parts and you can just see how they fit together. Really an awesome design job.



I just took this tent camping for the first time last weekend and set it up in very quickly fading light conditions. I had the whole thing set up and staked down -- footprint, tent, rain fly -- in a little over 10 minutes.



One thing I would recommend is that you grab six (6) little caribiners to attach the rain fly lines to the tent. They don't come with clips and you have to tie them on otherwise. Also, make sure the fly is in as little contact with the tent as possible to prevent moisture buildup from condensation. If you have the fly on properly, this is not a problem because the design of the fly and tent take care of that for you. Also, get the foot print or a tarp for underneath.



Tent Features: The G-4.1 has a lot of really great features. First, it has a circular zip door on each side. This may not sound like a great innovation at first, but think back to your camping experiences and having to climb over people to get into the tent. Second, the G-4.1 is extremely well ventilated. There are large mesh sections of the walls, in the doors, on the top of the tent so that air flows freely through. Third, the G-4 has great visibility if you don't need to have the fly on. The afore-mentioned mesh sections let you see the stars. Fourth, the floor design keeps the bottom seams off of the floor, which will keep you dry. Fifth, there are little "gear" bags on two sides of the tent, to stash your glasses or a flashlight. Sixth, there are clips on the ceiling from which one may hang extra gear bags and the tent comes with a "shelf" that you can tie up there -- very handy for a light or for other stuff. Seventh, the rain fly creates dual vestibules in which your extra gear can be stored and, since you have two doors, both vestibules are easily accessible.



Tent Construction: Along with the "bathtub" seams, this tent is very well put together. Tape stiching at important junctures, double stiching all around, and a good, taut, solid feel to the tent. The floor material is good for soft ground, but I'd recommend the foot print just to be on the safe side. The fly fits on like a glove and provides for some ventilation as well. This is a solid tent, and once you get it set up (and assuming you put the stakes in the ground), it's not going anywhere.



Size: I think we all know that "4-person" in tent-speak really means "4 people no larger than 5'8" and 160 pounds, maximum." The G-4.1 holds true to this convention. I'm 6'2" and I barely fit in this tent the way people are suggested to lie in it (head to toe across the short side), and I don't fit in with a sleeping bag. I had my wife (5'6") and my 6-year old and 2-year old also get in the tent at the same time. Thinking to the future, the G-4.1 will be comfortable for three of us but too tight for all four of us. If we all four go camping, I'd bring a 2-man tent for the kids and keep all the gear in the G-4.1 with the adults. But if you have three or less people, this thing is spacious and feels that way.



I love this tent. Buy it!


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16.2.10

Kelty Gunnison 3.1 Three Person Tent

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The redesigned Gunnison with its improved features is a freestanding, color-coded clip construction shelter that offers quick, two-pole setup and spacious quarters for a couple or a crowd. It includes internal storage pockets for organization and a combination of hubbed, high-quality DAC Feather lite pockets.
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Technical Details

- Seasons 3: Doors: 2; Vestibules: 2; Poles: 2; Pole Type: DAC Featherlite NSL poles + swivel hub: Wall Material: 68D 190T polyester taffeta; Floor Material: 1800mm PU nylon taffeta; Fly Material: 750 1800mm PU polyester taffeta
- Freestanding
- Color-coded clip construction
- Welded clear windows on Fly
- Internal storage pockets and mesh panels
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Customer Buzz
 "I like it" 2009-12-03
By D. Armstrong (Ohio, USA)
I got my gunnison a few weeks ago and have mixed emotions. I ended up getting the 3.1 for a little extra room and paid $199 on amazon with free shipping. As always with kelty, quality materials. However, the fastening mechanisms are all plastic and are specialty parts. I don't know how a plastic bottle can survive 1000 years in a landfill but a plastic clip cannot survive more then a few years on a compression sac. New out of the box all the fasteners are great, the ends of the all aluminum poles have a ball that locks into the clip on the tent making set up much easier. But some day those things will break, and I won't be able to stop at the local store and buy a new one (I have built/repaired LOTS of equipment from Jo Ann Fabrics). My other problem is the floor seems very thin and my other kelty footprints are the same material. I always worry about a puncture, so with this tent I use a $4.99 blue tarp (almost big enough) for a little bit of meat underneath. Hopefully my conserns are all for not and my tent will give me many years of pleasure. Thats really my only negative, the positives are many. Our first night it poured for about four hours and not a drop of water in our tent. The double door/vestibules are great, one side to enter and the other just big enough for two packs. The tent is relatively light, comes with aluminum poles, easy set up, plenty of room, looks good, everything I need at a reasonable price. I'm sure there are better tents, but this one is a great value.



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 "Quality Product" 2009-10-27
By B. Tucker
Very good quality for this price. I shopped all of the big box stores and was unable to find this quality or this model (once I had settled on a Kelty). Mine arrived missing one of the loops for the gear loft. Disappointing but not a deal breaker.

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 "What a pleasant surprise!" 2009-10-05
By J. C Tolleson
I was looking for the elusive middle ground of a roomy 2-3 person tent for canoe camping. It didn't need to be backpacker micro-lite but couldn't be a car camping dome style monstrosity, either. I also needed it to be freestanding, because gravel bars and sandy beaches aren't always great places for tents that require staking to remain up. I also was not looking to send a bunch of money, so I shopped the tried and true manufacturers of "real" (that is, not sporting goods store) tents, including Kelty.



Given the reasonable price my expectations weren't that high. Heck, I spent this much on a backpacking tent nearly two decades ago! So, imagine my pleasant surprise when I got an attractive tent with one of the fastest, most intuitive setups of any tent I've ever had. It is also honestly sized. You really could sleep three adults in it easily, and for two adults with some gear (or a dog) it actually works and works well. Also, it is extremely well vented (lots of screen) but with a full to-the-ground rainfly, so without the fly it could be used on a warm summer night and on a cold excursion the fly traps a bit of heat. A true three-season tent in my opinion.



Longevity and durability are obviously something to see over time, but I have no reason right now to expect problems (and will post if I do).





Customer Buzz
 "Great little tent." 2009-08-17
By Brian Cavett II
Nice tent and easy to set up. I had trouble trying to get the rainfly to line up with the seems and poles, so it would start to ride up on one side. It's a minor annoyance and I would recommend the tent to anyone else. Definitely more suited for two people than three.

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 "Great Boy Scout Tent" 2009-06-02
By Scout Nut (Greenville, SC, USA)
We are a Boy Scout Troop that does a lot of backpacking and camping in the Blue Ridge Mountains of SC and NC. We have some older Kelty tents that have held up great through all of the abuse a group of teenage boys can put out, so we're very pleased with the brand. The features of the Gunnison were the best in the price range. We've had them out a couple of times and are happy with the room, weight and design of the tents. Especially the 2 door design and the large vestibules. We're expecting years of service from them. Will definitely buy again as we need more tents.


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28.1.10

Kelty Gunnison 2.1 Two Person Tent

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The redesigned Gunnison with its improved features is a freestanding, color-coded clip construction shelter that offers quick, two-pole setup and spacious quarters for a couple or a crowd. It includes internal storage pockets for organization and a combination of hubbed, high-quality DAC Feather lite pockets.
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- Seasons 3: Doors: 2; Vestibules: 2; Poles: 2; Pole Type: DAC Featherlite NSL poles + swivel hub: Wall Material: 68D 190T polyester taffeta; Floor Material: 1800mm PU nylon taffeta; Fly Material: 750 1800mm PU polyester taffeta
- Freestanding
- Color-coded clip construction
- Welded clear windows on Fly
- Internal storage pockets and mesh panels
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Customer Buzz
 "Great tent" 2010-01-28
By monkeylord (overthere)
we took it out once so far and didn't bother with a rain fly. it's a great tent and highly recommend it.

Customer Buzz
 "Very Nice Lightweight Tent" 2009-09-05
By DocOne (Albuquerque, NM)
I selected this tent for the size and reasonably light weight. For two people, the backpacking weight is just a bit over 2-1/2 pounds per person which is not bad considering the size and large dual vestibules. It is a bit larger than most comparably dome tents inside which is a plus if you are tall or wish to stow some gear inside the tent. The gear vestibules on both sides are also larger than most, and being able to enter and stow gear on both sides is a plus as you don't have to step over someone else to get in or out. The tent is well constructed and goes up quickly. With the dual vents on top and generous screening I have not had any significant problems with condensation, and the full fly ensures you will remain dry even in severe weather. The only negative I've noticed is the snap at the bottom of the fly zipper, which can be a pain to close from the inside of the tent, but this is a relatively minor issue. Overall a great buy!

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 "Kelty Gunnison 21. Tent" 2009-08-10
By LMK
The main issue with this tent is the poor quality of the mosquito netting which comprises a good deal of the tent. This is the first tent that I have owned where the netting getting pulls in it. I am quite careful with my gear and was surprised after a few uses to have pulls. The design is good and set up is easy.

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 "Kelty Gunnison 2.1 (vs the REI Half Dome)" 2009-06-30
By Eric Varboncouer (Illinois)
I bought this for use as a two person backpacking and car camping tent. I also bought a REI half dome two person tent to which I compared it. These are very similarly designed tents. I set up both tents (in my living room) and did a side-by-side comparison. I never actually used the tent and so can only speak to its design and not its actual performance. I ultimately returned the Kelty Gunnison 2.1 tent but it was a close call and I will explain the good & the not so bad below.



First, I feel that for the weight & price, it would be hard to find a more spacious tent. The Kelty Gunnison felt a little more spacious than the REI half dome which was no slouch in this category as well. This is consistent with the Kelty's reported 3 more square feet (37 sq ft total) than the REI half dome. For people who are tall (over 6'--I am 6'2") this is a very long tent at 92". This is 2 inches longer than the rei half dome. Both tents are longer than many ultralight tents that I have sadly found to typically not be be designed with people over 6' in mind. For instance, the REI QUARTER dome is a tight fit for any one over 6'. The Gunnison is also listed at a 40" peak height which is fairly decent and I was able to sit upright in the tent comfortably. However, if you are 6'2" or above, the extra inch of height in the REI half dome is just enough that you can get a little farther from the center of the tent & still be upright. This would be handy if you were sitting in the tent with someone at night or riding out a storm. Weight wise the Kelty gunnsion is listed as a few ounces less in weight than the REI half dome. The kelty is reported to have a package weight of 5 lbs 9 oz. I considered the weight difference to be insignificant. There are lighter weight options for two person tents, but they will not have as much space and will be more costly.



The vestibules for the Kelty are massive with each vestibule being listed at 12 sq ft for the kelty and 9 sq ft each for the REI half dome. I obviously did not stake out either tent in my house, but the kelty vestibules definitely seemed larger. These vestibules would leave plenty of room for backpacks and probably the proverbial kitchen sink as well.



Next I will address the design of the tent. The kelty uses a plastic, but reasonably sturdy appearing hub for the tent poles whereas the half dome uses a metal one. On the Kelty tent, the rainfly and tent body are connected to the tent poles using plastic Jake's Foot connectors. On the half dome they are connected through the more traditional metal grommets. The entrance doors on both sides of the Kelty are smaller and more in the center of the tent than for the REI half dome. With the rainfly on, this made it slightly more difficult for easy entrance & exit with the Gunnison. This may theoretically also mean the Gunnsion would offer more protection from the rain getting in and out of the tent, but I obviously did not get to test this theory. I also am not aware of problems with the half dome in this regard. The overall tent body and rainfly of both tents seemed very similar in regards to material. The vents and netting also seemed reasonably comparable and I can only guess that ventilation in both tents would be reasonably similar.



For me, I ultimately chose the half dome over the gunnison but it was a tough call and I liked the gunnison's design as well. My biggest issue with the tent was the plastic hub and the plastic Jake's foot connectors. These are used in other tents as well. They may work great, but I personally prefer the metal hub and grommets of the half dome. I also liked the size and position of the doors much more in the half dome. The gunnsion was a little more spacious and had larger vestibules, but I felt this difference was not too dramatic.



In summary, I felt the Kelty Gunnsion 2.1 is a spacious tent with large vestibules at a decent price. It is a great option for tall individuals. I personally do not like the Jake's foot connectors or the plastic hub as they do not appear very rugged. However, I do not have any evidence that this would ever be a problem in the field longterm. I would have preferred doors that were a little larger and less centered. However, this may not be as much of an issue for smaller individuals and may be advantageous in rain. My preference would also be for a lighter tent, but for the space and money I dont think you can find a better deal. If you were wanting a lighter two person tent that would also be good for taller people, I would check out the big agnes emerald series or the the big agnes copper spur series. However, the improved weight is offset by smaller space and higher price.






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